Discussion:
GEtting up to 11.2 on PPC
Klaas.
2009-11-19 18:20:23 UTC
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LS,

Can someone in the know (Marcus?) please give a
description how to get an openSuse 11.2 install
om a PPC, PowerMac G5 1.8 dual in my case.

I downloaded the one CD from the repository, it
was dated oktober. It would not boot. I am totally
confused about the use of Factory. So please some
coaching and handholding and maybe I can get some
use out of this beast (the most expensive and least
usable Mac that I bought).
There is an openSuse 11.1 system on it, but corrupt
it keeps reloading the desktop. Waited for 11.2
and now this.

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greetings,
Klaas Punt
Larry Stotler
2009-11-19 18:36:04 UTC
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 Can someone in the know (Marcus?) please give a
 description how to get an openSuse 11.2 install
 om a PPC, PowerMac G5 1.8 dual in my case.
 I downloaded the one CD from the repository, it
 was dated oktober. It would not boot. I am totally
 confused about the use of Factory. So please some
 coaching and handholding and maybe I can get some
 use out of this beast (the most expensive and least
 usable Mac that I bought).
 There is an openSuse 11.1 system on it, but corrupt
 it keeps reloading the desktop. Waited for 11.2
 and now this.
You could try changing your repos to the ones in this directory:

http://powerpc.opensuse.org/factory/repo/

and then doing a:

zypper dup

to update to the latest factory. Evidently Official PPC support has
been dropped from openSUSE.

Maybe someone could clarify this? Olaf? Andreas?

Thanx
Stephen Michael Kellat
2009-11-19 20:18:55 UTC
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Post by Larry Stotler
Post by Klaas.
Can someone in the know (Marcus?) please give a
description how to get an openSuse 11.2 install
om a PPC, PowerMac G5 1.8 dual in my case.
I downloaded the one CD from the repository, it
was dated oktober. It would not boot. I am totally
confused about the use of Factory. So please some
coaching and handholding and maybe I can get some
use out of this beast (the most expensive and least
usable Mac that I bought).
There is an openSuse 11.1 system on it, but corrupt
it keeps reloading the desktop. Waited for 11.2
and now this.
http://powerpc.opensuse.org/factory/repo/
zypper dup
to update to the latest factory. Evidently Official PPC support has
been dropped from openSUSE.
Maybe someone could clarify this? Olaf? Andreas?
Thanx
I tried to use the net install disc for PPC to set up my G4. It did not
have a pre-existing install of openSUSE. The net install disc refused
to boot at all as if it did not even have yaboot or similar on it.

SMK
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Klaas.
2009-11-20 12:35:18 UTC
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Post by Stephen Michael Kellat
Post by Larry Stotler
Post by Klaas.
Can someone in the know (Marcus?) please give a
description how to get an openSuse 11.2 install
om a PPC, PowerMac G5 1.8 dual in my case.
I downloaded the one CD from the repository, it
was dated oktober. It would not boot. I am totally
confused about the use of Factory. So please some
coaching and handholding and maybe I can get some
use out of this beast (the most expensive and least
usable Mac that I bought).
There is an openSuse 11.1 system on it, but corrupt
it keeps reloading the desktop. Waited for 11.2
and now this.
http://powerpc.opensuse.org/factory/repo/
zypper dup
to update to the latest factory. Evidently Official PPC support has
been dropped from openSUSE.
Maybe someone could clarify this? Olaf? Andreas?
Thanx
I tried to use the net install disc for PPC to set up my G4. It did not
have a pre-existing install of openSUSE. The net install disc refused
to boot at all as if it did not even have yaboot or similar on it.
The same situation for me:

- the /powerpc.opensuse.org/factory/iso
contains 1 iso file from 14-oct-2009, which I burned to CD
and tried to boot, but got nowhere.

- the /powerpc.opensuse.org/factory/repo
contains more recent stuff but it is a mystery to me how I
can create an installation for my PowerPC from this.

I have the feeling that I may need just a few pointers to
get started and then go from there. So once more, please
give some guidance in this mailing list (or point me to the
subject documentation, please...)

greetings,
Klaas Punt
Marcus Meissner
2009-11-20 13:19:16 UTC
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Post by Klaas.
Post by Stephen Michael Kellat
Post by Larry Stotler
Post by Klaas.
Can someone in the know (Marcus?) please give a
description how to get an openSuse 11.2 install
om a PPC, PowerMac G5 1.8 dual in my case.
I downloaded the one CD from the repository, it
was dated oktober. It would not boot. I am totally
confused about the use of Factory. So please some
coaching and handholding and maybe I can get some
use out of this beast (the most expensive and least
usable Mac that I bought).
There is an openSuse 11.1 system on it, but corrupt
it keeps reloading the desktop. Waited for 11.2
and now this.
http://powerpc.opensuse.org/factory/repo/
zypper dup
to update to the latest factory. Evidently Official PPC support has
been dropped from openSUSE.
Maybe someone could clarify this? Olaf? Andreas?
Thanx
I tried to use the net install disc for PPC to set up my G4. It did not
have a pre-existing install of openSUSE. The net install disc refused
to boot at all as if it did not even have yaboot or similar on it.
- the /powerpc.opensuse.org/factory/iso
contains 1 iso file from 14-oct-2009, which I burned to CD
and tried to boot, but got nowhere.
- the /powerpc.opensuse.org/factory/repo
contains more recent stuff but it is a mystery to me how I
can create an installation for my PowerPC from this.
I have the feeling that I may need just a few pointers to
get started and then go from there. So once more, please
give some guidance in this mailing list (or point me to the
subject documentation, please...)
I dont have that much knowledge, but you should be able to do a openfirmware
netboot of the http://powerpc.opensuse.org/factory/repo/oss/suseboot/inst64
image (or inst32 on 32bit sysrtems) and then point the installer
do a network copy of the oss repo.

Ciao, Marcus
Klaas.
2009-11-20 20:31:07 UTC
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Post by Marcus Meissner
Post by Klaas.
Post by Stephen Michael Kellat
Post by Larry Stotler
Post by Klaas.
Can someone in the know (Marcus?) please give a
description how to get an openSuse 11.2 install
om a PPC, PowerMac G5 1.8 dual in my case.
I downloaded the one CD from the repository, it
was dated oktober. It would not boot. I am totally
confused about the use of Factory. So please some
coaching and handholding and maybe I can get some
use out of this beast (the most expensive and least
usable Mac that I bought).
There is an openSuse 11.1 system on it, but corrupt
it keeps reloading the desktop. Waited for 11.2
and now this.
http://powerpc.opensuse.org/factory/repo/
zypper dup
to update to the latest factory. Evidently Official PPC support has
been dropped from openSUSE.
Maybe someone could clarify this? Olaf? Andreas?
Thanx
I tried to use the net install disc for PPC to set up my G4. It did not
have a pre-existing install of openSUSE. The net install disc refused
to boot at all as if it did not even have yaboot or similar on it.
- the /powerpc.opensuse.org/factory/iso
contains 1 iso file from 14-oct-2009, which I burned to CD
and tried to boot, but got nowhere.
- the /powerpc.opensuse.org/factory/repo
contains more recent stuff but it is a mystery to me how I
can create an installation for my PowerPC from this.
I have the feeling that I may need just a few pointers to
get started and then go from there. So once more, please
give some guidance in this mailing list (or point me to the
subject documentation, please...)
I dont have that much knowledge, but you should be able to do a openfirmware
netboot of the http://powerpc.opensuse.org/factory/repo/oss/suseboot/inst64
image (or inst32 on 32bit sysrtems) and then point the installer
do a network copy of the oss repo.
Ciao, Marcus
Marcus,
Thank you for the reply. I worked on your suggestion but somehow
I can't get my brain around it.

I located the inst64 module, but when I visualised how to boot
from this remote address during the openfirmware boot I somehow
can't imagine that the network is available at that time.

So I copied the module to my system (a Mac OS X) and tried to
load it on CD so that it can be used at boottime.
Rebooted the system but apparently I didn't manage to make the
CD bootable.

So now I need some advice on how to make a bootable CD with just
this inst64 module on?
Or any other suggestion will be as welcome!

greetings,
Klaas.
Larry Stotler
2009-11-20 21:14:33 UTC
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 So I copied the module to my system (a Mac OS X) and tried to
 load it on CD so that it can be used at boottime.
 Rebooted the system but apparently I didn't manage to make the
 CD bootable.
 So now I need some advice on how to make a bootable CD with just
 this inst64 module on?
 Or any other suggestion will be as welcome!
You would also need the initrd64 file. Basically, the installer calls
the initrd64 which has the setup programs on it, and uses the inst64
as the kernel.

I recommend that you download the 11.1 net install iso:

http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/iso/openSUSE-11.1-NET-ppc.iso

and then do a minimal install. Once done, you can use yast to change
the repos to factory and then do the zypper dup and install what
patterns you want.

I'm pulling the factory net iso and will try it in my G4 tonight if I have time.

Does anyone at Novell/openSUSE have an offical comment on the status
of the PPC port? I tried to check with Andreas J. but he's out till
end of the month. Thanx
Larry Stotler
2009-11-22 00:13:13 UTC
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I'll get the NET distribution you mentioned and go from there.
I opened a bug report about it since I can't seem to get any answer as
to the status of PowerPC support. It's here:

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=557580

Maybe we will get an answer soon.
Peter Czanik
2009-11-23 16:02:26 UTC
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Post by Larry Stotler
I'll get the NET distribution you mentioned and go from there.
I opened a bug report about it since I can't seem to get any answer as
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=557580
Maybe we will get an answer soon.
Added my comments there. BTW: this state of PPC factory (or just a few
days earlier) is running fine on my Pegasos PPC machine.
Bye,
CzP
Larry Stotler
2009-11-23 18:10:50 UTC
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Post by Peter Czanik
Added my comments there. BTW: this state of PPC factory (or just a few
days earlier) is running fine on my Pegasos PPC machine.
Thanx Peter. PPC ssems to have fallen off the radar. I just didn't
have much time to do testing on 11.2. If I can get some time I'm
going to install factory on my G4/466.

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